Thread:Jens Ingels/@comment-118323-20131206194317/@comment-3271569-20131210182610

Thx,

The more advanced options on the link was actualy not intended to make the visual editor more advanced. The actualy reason was to give people that ability to actualy see it. The option to edit it was actualy an side idea. And the reason for the span was actualy intended lay-out sided. Here's an example to explane why people use an span marks for styling: . Since people don't have the ability to add an class to the wikicode form. People actualy try to use this as an solution. This is actualy an with the same problem with images where people are not able to add an class. Offcourse something like this:  or if you want to limit it:   ||   ||. That one of the current limitations of link styling in tables. An example:

In this example the link egg isn't an priority link and so it has no reason to be color into an different color. In these cases most people grab into the span class or style. It's been noticed that the use has been increased lately because the texttip template hasn't be implemented on default yet (example: ""). Offcourse can these problem relative easy be fixed with css that new user don't known (note: didn't test if it works): And this wouldn't even work in IE. That's why the only full support option would be adding an id to the row so we get this: One more note: When an table class like wikitable is used you will have to use an  in the css. Since most people actualy use wikitable as default for their tables the css isn't always the solution for these problems.

So basicly you will be punished by using css on your wikia since you will have to use an  function most of the time. On this wikia it actualy start to become an hugh problem when styling our content. This is actualy one of the reason why we went more into the scripting.

I can agrea and support you on the reason to make the new editor more friendly for grammar correcting users. The classic editor isn't that popular for them and often frustrates them when they are using it. For that reason the visual editor is indeed better so long you can fix the loading issue.

I also can agrea sections will make it more complex for you guys to code. But I don't think you would be able to get the same loading time as before without them especially on mobile devices.

I indeed didn't mention more about using the templates. I believe I ever post some feedback somewhere on the classic system. If I have some time left I will try to look into it again. Our wikia has an relative large template system. So I probaly would be able to give some details about it. I will try to look into it again another day.

And thx, the template categories is indeed something you look into. Including how the system works since we notice the categories will not always be added until an action has been made (I believe we contact support for this plently of times). Add the end the problem solves themself but we notice it still can cause some conflicts with 'on page' categories. That's one of the reason why we try to prevent the use from adding categories on pages that are already automaticly be add by templates. So far we only notice an template after an hugh add category action. I also fear we wouldn't be able to help you with this problem since it impossible to generate. We can say it has todo with the following factors:
 * 1) An heavy category template adjustment has been made (example the add of the categories "Template:Terra Dragons/ ' ' ' ' ' ".
 * 2) The category was already been add or shortly been add to an page manualy (example Template:Terra Dragons/Flame on Volcano Dragon) [???]
 * 3) That page will no longer be add to the category.

When this problem apear we basicly check that page and remove the manuel added category. After that action including the action that the page has been edit the problem is fixed.

Looking foward to that copy+paste formatting function ;)

I will always remain supporting your project and will even implement it on the dragon city wikia some day. (if the loading issue has been fixed). Currently it just slows me down when I'm working on the Eggs page. I have discussed this with my fellow admins. But currently the function is too laggy to work with. This has nothing todo with the options on the editor.